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Govt Orders Improved Pension to PBOR

by GConnect TeamMarch 12, 2010

one rank one pension,orop,pbor,persons below officer rank,indian armed force,military pension,6th pay commission, sixth pay commission,6cpc,6th cpc,prime minister Dr.Manmohan singh,finance minister pranab mukarjeeImproved Pension to Pre-2006 Pensioners:

The much awaited Govt’s exercise to enhance the pension of Personnel Below Officer Rank (PBOR) has been completed now.  It was long pending demand of PBOR pensioners community who retired before 1.1.2006 before Government.  Pre-2006 PBOR pensioners felt that implementation sixth pay commission had in fact created a huge gap between Pre-2006 PBOR pensioners and Post 2006 Pensioners.

After Prime Minister’s  deliberations before the House on improvement of pre 2006 pensioners,  Defence ministry has now issued Circular No: 430 dated 10.3.2010 for improving the pension to bridge the gap in pension of Pre 01.01.2006 and Post 01.01.2006 discharged Personnel Below Officer Rank (PBOR) of Armed Forces.

Pension Enhancement Close to One Rank One Pension Demand, says Govt:

In a move that will bring relief to over 12 lakh ex-servicemen, the Defence Ministry has issued orders to implement pending pensionary benefits to them involving an annual expenditure of about Rs 2,200 crore.

The decision followed recommendations by a high-level committee and recent assurance in this regard in the Lok Sabha by Prime Minister Mr. Manmohan Singh.

With these orders, the ministry has implemented all the seven recommendations of the committee headed by Cabinet Secretary Mr. K M Chandrasekhar on pensions, which would now be close to the ‘One Rank-One Pension’ demand of ex-servicemen, senior ministry officials said today.

“The Defence Ministry issued the orders on March 8 this year to implement the remaining two of the seven suggestions of the Cabinet Secretary K M Chandrasekhar-headed committee on ‘One Rank-One Pension’ demand,” they said.

The two recommendations for which the orders were issued were bringing parity between pension of pre- and post-October 10, 1997, personnel below officer rank, and further improving their pensions based on award of Group of Ministers in 2006.

To queries on the order, Defence Ministry spokesperson Sitanshu Kar said implementation of the orders would not only significantly reduce the gap between the past and current pensioners, but would also considerably improve the pension of ex-servicemen including disabled pensioners.

No Benefits to family Pensioners, Commissioned Officers  and Pensioners given honorary Rank:

As per para 5.1 of the Order, Pensioners given Honorary Rank such as JCOs granted Honorary rank of Lieutenant and Captain will not get any benefit out of this order as they were already granted 50% of their pay in the Pay Band-3 or minimum of pay band-3, which ever is applicable and PB-3 grade pay.

This order also does not apply to Commissioned officers and their families and to all family pensioners of PBOR

No Arrears:

Para 8 of the Order dated 10.3.2010 also says that no arrears on account of revision of pension based on notional fixation of pay shall be admissible for the period prior to 1.7.2009.

Other recommendations approved by Govt:

Among the other recommendations already implemented were inclusion of classification allowance for personnel below officer rank from January 1, 2006 and removal of linkage of full pension with 33 years from January 1, 2006 (the day Sixth Pay Commission came into retrospective effect).

Full pension after rendering 20 years of service was earlier announced only for those officers who retired after 01-09-2008 while the same was made applicable to PBOR w.e.f 01-01-2006.

The govt has accepted the recommendation and issued orders for payment of full pension to those officers who had retired with 20 years of service or above between 01-01-2006 and 01-09-2008.

The govt has also decided that in respect of PBOR who were discharged / invalided between 01-01-2006 and 31-08-2008, the rates of classification allowance made applicable w.e.f 01-09-2008 would now reckon notionally w.e.f 01-01-2006 for the purposes of determining reckonable emoluments for pension.

Download this order issued by Ministry of Defence for classification allowance and removal 33 years condition

Download Circular No: 430 dated 10.03.2010 for improvement in the Pre-2006 PBOR Pensioners

The Government has also issued an Important Letter No. Gts/Tech/O/67/IV dated 10/03/2010 directing all banks involved in the disbursement of pension to enhance the pension of PBOR pensioners based on the above mentioned Order No: 430 dated 10.3.2010.

Download letter dated 10.3.2010 issued by Government to all pension disbursement authorities for implementing the Govt’s decision to enhance PBOR pension.

49 Comments
  • December 22, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    Dear Hare Krishan Deshwal, I am also one khadoos pensioner of CMP. In fact, the post 1.1.06 PBOR pensioners have been brought at par with the pre-1.1.06 pensioners. Our pension will also be revised to Rs 11,970/- per month. Record office has started receiving revised PPOs in this regard. We are eligible for commutation of pension (difference in commuted portion (11970-10050)/2 x 12x PURCHASE VALUE as applicable separately to optees/non-optees. In addition we are entitled to weightage for calculation of gratuity ( ie 2.5 times your last reckonable emoluments) as whatever injustice the BASTARDS (6th pay commission members) had done to us, has been re-stored by the BLESSING GOVERNMENT and we are entitled to 16.5 months reckonable emoluments due to restoration of weightage of 5 years.
    Some Sub (Y Group) have got DIFFERENCE IN COMMUTATION VALUE + DIFFERENCE IN GRATUITY+ARREARS OF PENSION to the tune of Rs 1,50,000/- or more. We shall also get it within 3-5 months. So do not worry. With this BLESSING of the GOVERNMENT, all the ANOMALIES are vanished. However, the BABUS of ministry PLAYED GAME with PBOR by first FIXING a pension scale for pre-1.1.06 pensioners and bringing post 1.1.06 pensioners AT PAR with them. Still it is not an OROP as some PBOR with same length of service will start getting pension more than the FIXED scales within 2-3 years. I hope next PAY COMMISSION will be holding back upper limit for pbor and release a fixed PENSION SCALE for all PBOR retired between World War II to date. I HOPE YOU WOULD FEEL CONTENT AND SATISFIED. MY DEAR FRIEND.

    Josh.

  • balbirbahadur singh
    July 12, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    sir i am exservicemain from indian navy and re employed with state govt .Am i eligible to drar DA on pension and my salary both.plz clear the position

  • Sharon C Johnson
    April 4, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    DEAR RAJESH, WHO DID NOT OPT FOR 50% COMMUTATION, GOT COMMUTED VALUE ON THE BASIS OF OLD OLD COMMUTATION TABLE. THE CUNNING MEMBERS OF 6TH PAY COMMISSION MODIFIED THE COMMUTATION TABLE AND THOSE WHO OPTED FOR 50% PORTION OF PENSION AS COMMUTATION, GOT THE COMMUTATION VALUE ON THE BASIS OF NEW COMMUTATION TABLE. FOR POST 1.9.2008 PENSIONERS THE NEW COMMUTATION TABLE WAS MANDATORY. SO THERE WAS DIFFERENCE OF OPTEE vs NON OPTEE.

  • Sharon C Johnson
    April 4, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    WHILE MY COMMENTS ARE AWAITING MODERATION, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE GOVT TO CONCENTRATE ON THE ISSUE AND REALISE THE GENUINE ANOMALY IN GRANTING PENSION TO PRE-01.01.06 AND POST 01.01.06 PBOR WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY.

  • Sharon C Johnson
    April 4, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    YOU(THE GOVT) CAN REALISE, THE PRE-01.01.06 PBOR HAVE ALREADY ENJOYED 50% OF THEIR HIGHEST PAY SCALE AS PENSION. THEY WILL FURTHER ENJOY THE ENHANCED RATES OF PENSION UNDER O.R.O.P. WHAT ABOUT THE NEW PENSIONERS, ARE THEY NOT DEFENCE-PENSIONERS? WE HAD EXPECTED A HEALTHY SCALE OF PENSION AFTER RETIREMENT SO THAT WE COULD PROUDLY CALL OURSELVES DEFENCE PENSIONERS. NOW WE HAVE NO OPTION LEFT BUT TO CALL OURSELVES RETIRED BEGGERS OF THE INDIAN ARMY.

  • joshsuhanasafar
    April 4, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    WITH VERY LIMITED JOB AVAILABLE WITH CORPORATES, PBOR WHO ARE STILL LEFT WITH AT LEAST 15 YEARS OF EARNING AGE, ROAMING LIKE DOGS IN SEARCH OF JOBS, SOME ARE GETTING, SOME ARE ROAMING. THE GOVT ALSO DID NOT GRANT THEM LATERAL ENTRY INTO PARA MILITARY FORCES. SO WHY THIS 50% OF LAST RECKONABLE EMOLUMENTS IS STILL RUNNING. PLEASE GRANT US 70% OF THE LAST SALARY IMMEDIATELY. YOU (THE GOVT) HAVE ALREADY SPENT MORE THAN FOUR YEARS DOING NOTHING FOR THE PBOR EXCEPT O.R.O.P. WHICH HAS CERTAINLY CREATED UNCERTAINITY AMONG THE POST-1.1.06 RETIREE PBOR. IS ANYONE LISTENING.

  • joshsuhanasafar
    April 4, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    THE BIGGEST ANOMALY OF O.R.O.P. IS THAT NOW THE POST-1.1.06 PENSIONERS HAVE STARTED GETTING LESS PENSION THAN THE PRE-01.01.06 PENSIONERS. INDEED, HISTORY HAS BEEN CREATED BY THE GOVT (6TH PAY COMMISSION) AND SUBSEQUENT COMMISSIONS WHERE THE OLD PENSIONERS ARE GETTING MORE PENSION THAN THE NEW PENSIONERS. THIS HAS TO BE RECORDED IN THE GUINNESS BOOK OF INDIAN GOVERNMENT’S EFFICIENCY RECORDS. THE MEMBERS OF 6TH PAY COMMISSION WILL ALL GO TO HELL.

  • rajesh rathore
    November 17, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    It is submitted that as per policy letter of GOI MOD, the new rate of purchase value of commutation of pension is implemented to those pensioners who are retired on after 02 Sep 2008. But in some case PCDA(P) has impleted this rate to the pensioners who retired prier to 01 Sep 2008, and in some case they have given as corectly. It is not understood what reason can be for this act.

  • September 29, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    I request the Honourable Prime Minister, Defence Minister, Finance Minister and the three Service Chiefs to accord a thorough consideration of effecting the award of PBOR pensionery benefits from 01.01.2006 as 6th CPC award was reckoned with this date. Further, we all Ex-Servicemen incl our respected Officers category have been praying for OROP from a long time as our career (if we can really call it so!) cut off when we are still young with average age of 35 to 40 years whereas our civilian counterpart enjoys job till 60 years. President and PM had assured us,why the delay then in issuing Govt sanctions. Finally, please include Defence Veterans in comittee dealing with Defence pay panel as well as Ex-Servicemen’s pension etc because they can only feel the peculiar nature of job, limited years of service as well as availability of post-retirement service to us ,after serving the nation during our prime. Please accord a deep insight towards our please, it is genuine.

  • September 29, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    I retired on 31 Oct 1993 at the age of 47 yrs with a post graduate degree, having sound health and sound exposure of man and material management. There was no
    help either from Central or State Govt for resettlement job. In private sectors, selectors rediculed our experience and exposure saying that, “our domain was with people under Defence Act”. Pension was very meagre and children still in Schools. Now some improvement awarded as newly introduced ‘PBOR’ category but retrospective effect from 1.09.2009 whereas 6th CPC was from 01.01.06, Why so?

  • Rumal Singh Pathania;
    August 22, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    I retired form Indian Air force on 1st May 2008 from the rank of Warrant officer in group ‘Y’ after having 37 Yrs and 05 months service.
    With old pension benefit. After implementation of 6th CPC my basic pension is Rs. 10,210 (i.e 50% of last pay drawn) which is even less than of the pensioners of pre Jan 2006.
    In the light of recent Govt. Orders for modifying their pension warrant office or Subedar of ‘Y’ Group is getting Rs. 11,970 Basic pension + DA.
    Please look into the matter and clarify the same.
    Email Id: [email protected]
    Mob. No: 9871960290
    Thanks & Rgards
    Rumal Singh Pathania

  • August 17, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    Govt has made mockery by granting improvement in pension to PBOR. The Safaisewak
    have equated with graduate in grant of pension. No benefit has been given to individuals having higher education for posts such as PA/(GD/SD) Clerks/Technical
    staff in Med,EME, Signal Corps.
    Ex Hav/Clk(GD/SD) JS  Kenneth 

  • August 12, 2010 at 12:05 pm

    All ex Subedar retired between 01 Jan 2006 to 31 Aug 2008 are getting less Basic Pension than pre 2006 retirees whose basic pension has been fixed as Rs 11970/-pm. Govt does not seems to remove this anomaly arises on declaration of OROP. I feel that we all should go to court to get justice for this injustice being done by the govt with a particular batch retired between the above said period. I seek suggestion of any expertees on the subject to get our dues. I feel there is no such rule which entitles more pension to a person who retired earlier than the present one in the same rank/trade/length of service.

  • Ex Sub Mahender Singh
    August 12, 2010 at 11:53 am

    Dear Sub Deshwal, Mech Record and one more Record office have taken up a case to this anomaly arises due to OROP between pre 2006 and 01 jan 2006 to 31 Aug 2008 retirees. I am waiting for the outcome of the above case taken up by them. I am in touch with many other such subedars retired between 01 Jan 06 to 31 Augh 2008 and going to file a case in the court. If you are interested to get justice via court then please contact at my email ID : [email protected] and mobile No 09312829599. (From Ex Sub Mahender Singh)

  • Sgt Walawalkar JY
    July 28, 2010 at 10:14 am

    Respected Sirs, What happens if LAC gets more pension than SGT, an Airman remains as LAC because he could not pass CTTB, Cpl Edn Test etc, but he has served for this nation for 15/20 yrs. as per VI CPC all LAC to SGT all are in one pay band, so the story remains same for ever.

  • basant ballabh
    June 20, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    surprise to see x sgt jn chirtian comment that a lac will get more pension than cpl.  this is bureaucry any thing happen.  i give you an example in iv cpc officers get da increase 67% and 75% according to pay scale (i.e. % of cpi index increase) and lowergrades use to get 100 % of da increase cpi index. v cpc officer da was increse to 100 % of cpi index increase i.e 33 % jump in da increase it was their benefit.  top ias officer just passed the order in this case  whether hav gets more pension than jco they dont bother.
    sir, i think that before passing the order they should go deeply and a senior rank should not get lower pension than junior what may be the reason

    • Sgt Walawalkar JY
      July 25, 2010 at 11:22 am

      What is the problem,if LAC gets more pension than SGT, he remained LAC because he could not pass CCTB, LTTB, Cpl Edn Test etc, but he has worked sorry, served this nation for 15/20 yrs. and as per VI CPC all AC to SGT in one pay band i.e. 5200. so the story remains same forever.

  • x cpl.rkchauhan
    June 13, 2010 at 9:16 am

    dear sir, the govt. has not applied the orop in its true context as has been announced by sh. pranab mukerjea the hon’ble fm. goi. orop shall be effective only when the wide gap is bridged between the categories of pre and post 1996 retiree and pre and post 2006 retireees.

  • Nirmal Kumar
    May 15, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    Sir , I retired as an Chief E A P , No. 142744-W on 31st December 1993 after 15 years of service. I joined the Indian Navy on 27th Dec. 1978 and left on 31st Dec. 1993. Plesae tell me my acual pension as on date. Thanks.

  • April 29, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    Hallo , Is there any website to know full detail of one rank one pension

  • April 16, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    Dear Sir,

    I retired from the Indian Army on 01 Aug 08 in the rank of Subedar in gp `Y’ after having served 28 years of service with old pensionary benefits. After implementation of 6CPC, my pension is arrived at Rs 10,050/ ( i.e. 50% of last pay drawn) pm which is even less than that of the pensioners of pre-2006 cases, (if all conditions of servcie, trade etc are equated to mine). In the light of recent govt orders for modifying their pension Subedar of pre-2006, with 28 years of service would get Rs11970/- plus Dearness allowance. This logic needs clarification, as I was non optee for commutation of pension. Whether I am eligible to take up case with authorities concerned for seeking minimum pension than that of my other mates of pre-2006 pensioners . It is seen that my pension has been equated to 23 years of service of subedar. Kindly put across your views on the subject.

    with regards

    HK Deshwal
    Ex Subedar

  • Mohamed Ali
    April 16, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    Hi,

    Anyone knows the latest pension table April 2010. Please let me know about it.

  • balakrishna
    April 3, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    Veterans should thank the PM for having finally given his nod for pension parity to PBOR. As an ex-PBOR, I also convey my gratitude to the veterans who tirelessly fought for it and won. But, in the process we should not forget our ex-Officers who stood by us in the agitations. Will Government consider their plea too? B’coz, the issue of OROP is somewhat unique to the Defence Services, whether it is PBOR or Officer rank.
    I would also like to mention here one of the major career anomalies faced by ex-service men, particularly PBOR. People have a deep rooted notion that we are fit for nothing other than security jobs. The re-employment in Civil is open to us at the lowest rung of the ladder bcoz by the time we come out of the Service, we cross the age limit for middle level entry, even thru competitive exams. The situation resembles a snake and ladder game where we can’t reach a level on par with our age and experience. Once re-employed, the masters find us most reliable and competent to entrust more and more work bcoz they can’t extract work from the youngsters. But when the question of promotion and career prospects arises, we are placed at the far end of the queue merely bcoz we joined later!.
    While in Service, we are always in ‘queue’ and when we come out, we find ourselves at the end of another queue!!. I am afraid no OROP can make up this loss.
    Jai Hind!!!

    • April 12, 2010 at 4:10 pm

      Dear ESMs,
      Mr Balakrishna has well said and analyzed the post retirement conditions logically, but who is really responsible? The situation regarding improvement in education after joining services started in 70s and that too in attaining degrees in humanities. The officers are either graduates before joining the armed forces or graduated in military academies & colleges, but there is nothing for the men; neither education nor the education leave.
      In my earlier post, I wrote about the Diploma for the ESMs and you can imagine the condition when you hear bitter words from the managers on reaction in private organizations “so you were a fitter” or “20 years is too long time to remain a fitter after Diploma”. You can never convince them that you are as good as or better engineer than they were. And, on one fine day someone tells you the president of a whole plant is a Diploma holder. The word fitter is derogatorily endorsed in your Diploma.
      The policies of Indian armed forces are unfair, unjust and colonial even after more than 60 years of independence. In English news or in movies, I have never heard the words like PBOR etc for other ranks, but a single word used for all is ‘Officer’. There is hell of discrimination in our policies and most of our officers try to act as ‘Gora Sahib’ feeding their ‘Kale Ghulams’. Not by words but by their actions and all know that actions speak more than words.
      Regards.

  • Subhash
    April 3, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    As per tables issued with letter of Mar 2010 pension of all Pre-2006 Pensioners is same. Then where is “Substantially improve the pension of pre-January one, 2006″ .
    As per committee recommendations post-1997 should get more pension. Can any one reply.

  • manohar lal sharma
    March 28, 2010 at 10:18 am

    sir,
    i am ex airforce, sgt. 15 years service. manohar lal, my present basic is 4026, i want to know what will be my basic after improvement / implementation of one rank one pension as per new circulars. i retired on 1/9/1978. can u tell me any web cite where to find calculations tables. thanks

  • March 27, 2010 at 11:01 pm

    Col. Rajaraman sir Jai Hind.
    I have been going through the blogs on O R O P and other connected blogs on Defence personnel pay & pension. Lot of heated discussions took place. But i would like to request the senior officers serving as well as retired to tell whether they are aware of the scales of the so called S N Cos of all the three wings of armed forces. may be i am wrong. they may be aware of it. But i would like to highlight them for all concerned. The basic pay of X group seargent in 5th C P C was Rs 5000-100-6500. In the 6th C P C they are put in the pay band of Rs 4200 – 20200 with a grade pay of Rs 2400.
    where as the civilians and civilians in defence forces whose basic pay was Rs 5000 in the 5th C PC are put in the pay band of Rs 9300-34800 with a grade pay of Rs 4200. Why is this disparity. I retired as Group I Seargent in the year 1990. We r the people who keep the modern A/cs flying and service and certify the air worthiness. Now we are lowered to a stage of Nces and lashkars and kept in the same payband with little high grade pay. Till today i have sent so many mails to the Hon’ble Defence Minister and C A S. till now i am yet to receive reply from them. Further i would like to add that the serving personnel r not much loosers as their pay is calculated basing on the fitment formula. who is the looser? Retired personnel like me. But every one must realise that all have to retire one day r other. none can serve indefinately.

    All the S N COs placed like me must have vented out their feelings as their grievances were not redressed. I only want a clarification on this disparity. May be there r valid reasons. But that should be explained to the people who are not as smart and intelligent like officers. At least now i humbly request the senior officers to highlight the disparity between the civilians and SNCos. I read many blogs where lots of criticism has teken place becoz of the officers were only fighting for the higher pay of Colonels and other Sr. officers. With regards.

  • Balakrishna
    March 27, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    Veterans should thank the PM for having finally given his nod for pension parity to PBOR. As an ex-PBOR, I also convey my gratitude to the veterans who tirelessly fought for it and won. But, in the process we should not forget our ex-Officers who stood by us in the agitations. Will Government consider their plea too? B’coz, the issue of OROP is somewhat unique to the Defence Services, whether it is PBOR or Officer rank.

    I would also like to mention here one of the major career anomalies faced by ex-service men, particularly PBOR. People have a deep rooted notion that we are fit for nothing other than security jobs. The re-employment in Civil is open to us at the lowest rung of the ladder bcoz by the time we come out of the Service, we cross the age limit for middle level entry, even thru competitive exams. The situation resembles a snake and ladder game where we can’t reach a level on par with our age and experience. Once re-employed, the masters find us most reliable and competent to entrust more and more work bcoz they can’t extract work from the youngsters. But when the question of promotion and career prospects arises, we are placed at the far end of the queue merely bcoz we joined later!.

    While in Service, we are always in ‘queue’ and when we come out, we find ourselves at the end of another queue!!. I am afraid no OROP can make up this loss.
    Jai Hind!!!

  • March 21, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    Thanks for uplading my commrnts I wish someone tells me what is happening to other OFFICERS OROP and how long to wait !!!

  • March 21, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    we are happy and grateful to the Govt to resolve the old OROP ISSUE though several affected will be smiling in heaven after all their struggle bore fruit, may be their successors go the benefit. I remember my father who retired as hony. capt. in 1963. till last he waited for any good news .’ always scanning news papers with faded eye sight. i wish he will be bit happy . yes ,but NO ! hony ranks have still to wait and so his son who also retired as officer ,we both have to wait GOD only know how long!!!

  • rama shanker
    March 21, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    It is an effort from our opposition leaders like Mr Advani & Ravi shanker Prasad to have awakened the people in power who were asleep after the declaration of what we are discussing, in the year 2009.Thanks to opposition leaders.  

  • Suby
    March 20, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    Welcome to new order for improved pensionary benefits to PBORs. 6th CPC reccommended for pension on last rank held/lat drawn payment. The new order completely ignored this and insisted for rank held for last 10 months for pension benefits. How can parity be brought between Post and Pre 2006 Jan pensioners with this order. I was drawing pension of basic of 6400 ( Last held rank JWO for 6 months, X group, 20 years)as per 6th CPC. Now the improved order is 7200 as pension for SGT. Now any one goes out will get pension based on last rank held. Can we expect any justice. Like me there are thousands who were ignored of these benefits.

  • March 20, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    Dear ESMs,
    I feel we all are chasing a mirage of OROP in the dry deserts of our democracy (?) which claims to provide equality and equity to all its citizens in all spheres of life. Provision of opportunities to all and equal wages for same work are the two fundamentals of civilizations which when ignore cause them irrevocable distractions.
    The improvement in pension of PBOR in circular No. 430 dated 08.03.2010 has an attached letter addressed to the three military chiefs. It could be given a better shape and look without the unfortunate clauses where MoD seems stuck up and helpless with applicability of:
    i. 10 months` regular service in same rank and group, and
    ii. 33 years` service for full pension.
    There is nothing for poor widows of ESMs and our mighty ones know that none has time to spare for their (widows`) causes. This is the state of empathy to which our materialistic, economist prime minister with his ministers is leading the nation. Perhaps, politics and power dries the mercy in the hearts as the time dries the milk in the breasts. This is the cruelty of a barbaric society, not of a great civilization which is misleadingly dipicted in our history books. How will they reserve seats in politics for women when they do not care for them after their widowhood.
    If OROP is guaranteed forever, I am ready to leave my additional X group pension for equality with all other PBOR brothers and for relatively better days of the widows of those who sacrificed their lives for the nation, and for the widows of those who embraced their innumerable silent deaths in post-retirement struggles.
    Best regards.
    RS Sahni

  • March 19, 2010 at 9:28 am

    R S Sahni,
    Log on: http://www.iaf.nic.in, go to pension column, click on running dialouge ” know your pension pre 2006″ u will find pdf file for new pension, save it.
    Amar Singh Verma
    Ex SGT

  • March 18, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    Iam an Ex JWO awaiting for the pension anomalies to be removed by the govt. However ,much of the anomalies are removed now but still there are errors nd omissions to remove and clarify. let me wish all the best to our govt for taking a good look on defence pension.

  • x sgt jn christian
    March 13, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    the cos report implemented is more confusing.Does the Govt. official check the correctnes of tables or merely signs. What a joke IAF pension for X Gp. LAC 15 years 5519/- CPL 5395/- Sgt 5492/-.the much talked and agreed 70% weightage is not applied. the 6 cpc fittment table notional max to 5 cpc is not applied. in short the report has not addressed basic anamoly.the implementation is contradicting the report itself.any way ” bhagte bhut ki langot hi sahi”

    • March 28, 2010 at 9:11 pm

      Hi sir

      Excellant observation that L A C gets more pension than his superiors that is CPL and seargents of X group. This may be because of weightage of 10, 8 and 6 years given to the ranks i e sepoys , Naiks and Havildars and their equivalent ranks in other Forces. But it is a classic case of junior getting more pension than his seniors due incorrect application of mind. With regard to other observatyons i would like to say that it may not be the O R O P, but the improvement in pension is granted as per the recommendations of Cabinet Secratarys Committee according to my understanding. I request you to highlight how the orders are not in accordance with the report.

      • x sgt jn christian
        April 1, 2010 at 6:00 am

        here is some contradicting application of cos report. the recommendation was 5 cpc max is to be applied notionally to 6 cpc fittment table as per sai 1/s/2008. for gp x sgt max of 5 cpc is 5945 x 1.86=11057.7 +6200=17257.7/2=8629×21/33=5492.
        now here the pay taken as 11057 is wrong it should be as per 6 cpc fittment table of gp x sgt and should be 11160 and the pen will be 5523. bz 11057 pay point is not there in 6 cpc fittment table. the order is contradicting the report in a sense the fittment is not done as per cos recommendations.
        the 6 cpc fittment table 4 gp x sgts starts as per prerevised 5000-100-6500 so it starts from 9300 to 12090 & 11160 is 1 of the fittment stage of 6cpc gp x sgt scale and there is no such basic as 11057 considered by cos report in 6 cpc gp x sgt fittment table.
        i hope i have cleared the point. more over the max considered by govt is the non diploma holder scale of sgt which is abolished now there is only 1 scale 4 sgt which is 5000-100-6500. so why 6500 is not taken as max instead of 5945.

  • vengat
    March 13, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    i wish to add one more thing to g.connect comments. the benefits of full  pension after 20 years is given only to those for those discharged on or after 01-01-2006. and not their senior brethren as clarified in circular 430 para 2 

  • Parameswaran MK
    March 13, 2010 at 11:45 am

    Congatulations to UPA Govt. The much awaited Govt orders granting improved pension to Retired armed force personnel below officer ranks have since been issued. Let us hope the concerned pension disbursing authorities will take quick action to pay the reivsed pension.

    • Edward Michael
      March 15, 2010 at 9:57 am

      It is a welcome effort of all the Ex-serviceman association and the GOVERNMENT. It is not a OROP, but an improvement in the pension paid to PBOR and also an attempt to reduce the gap between the pension paid to pre 2006 and post 2006 pensioners below officer rank. Delinking of 33 years of service is not under stood. The defense pensioners who retired after 1.1.2006 is eligible for the full pension on completion of 20 years of service as applicable to the rank last held. Is this the procedure is followed for those who retired prior to 1.1.2006?

  • vengat
    March 13, 2010 at 10:35 am

    yes i agree with sam. let g connect continue with its good work.  i am also ex af. but i dont know why the govt brought difference between 1st group and diploma holders. as all are aware the technical back bone of AF. sweated it out even with obsoulete machines /equipment to make them airworthy/ useable. i remember, that when dakoda a/c was not available for keeping in museum, we in IAF were operating them.

  • col rajaraman
    March 13, 2010 at 9:36 am

    The long awaited pensionary relief to our JCOsand ORs anf their equvivalent in navy & airforce is finally out. One can understand it is not OROP, but a modifed parity. The abnormal delay in issue of these orders were accompanied by lies and counter lies by those in powers. Anyhow the letter is finally out. i am not sure whether it addressses all issues concerning everyone. it is only people who are affected by the orders can tell.

    There was this person by name Prabhu an air force sergeant i think, who had been writing in these columns. may i request him to study these orders and inform others whether these orders address all the issues that he had raised.
    col Rajaraman

  • March 12, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    KUDOS TO G CONNECT FOR ITS PROMPT REACTION OVER MY REQUEST TO HIGHLIGHT THE ” Govt Orders Improved Pension to PBOR ” WHICH IS PUBLISHED INSTANTANEOUSLY. ANOTHER FIRST OF ITS KIND FROM G CONNECT. THIS WOULD BE OF VERY INFORMATIVE NEWS TO MANY OF RE- EMPLOYED EX DEFENCE PERSONNEL IN CENTRAL GOVT SERVICES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. HOWEVER, THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL PENSION ENHANCEMENT BENEFITS TO ALL CONCERNED. BETTER LATE THAN NEVER. BEST WISHES.

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